than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. He encompasses all of dimensionality, but he does not transcend it. However, the Beyonder is beyond (pun wholly, shamelessly intended) simply universe level+. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Rules: All tier zero characters from marvel are removed. Thanos with the HOTU is more powerful than LT as well, though I can't remember any massive feats he had. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. here is a fight that involves. Definitely Beyonder. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. MrStealYoSweetroll • 2 yr. Holy moley. TOBA is just TOAA's alternate persona. Cosmic. You know that. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Oblivion hasn't done anything himself aside from Quasar, and in Quasar, he stalemated. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. 124. Mar 9, 2022. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. The Primal Monitor is the whole DC. Continental. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. the dunamis demiurgos is supposed to be a 1/half copy of the presence's power. both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. 2. Follow 5232. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Beyonder Boy ("Incomplete Cosmic Cube"): Single Mother of Three (Perpetua): Noneless21 He/Him 7,323 4,911. Just because Beyonder, originally wasnt from marvel multiverse doesnt mean that Beyonder isnt a marvel character, because he is. @divinemaster: seeing no one is making an argument For Pre Retcon Beyonder, i will play the devil's advocate. @rabumalal: Dream would probably solo LT hes near pre-retcon beyonder level at best read into his feats. True Darkseid might actually have a chance though. My favourite Marvel tier 1 vs. The Source - Primal Monitor, The universal spirit venerated by the New Gods, which resides beyond the Source Wall. Creaturemaster971. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Wiki Points. Beyonder was everything inside the Multi-verse. Follow 41274. 1,102. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. The powers of the PRB are attributed as unlimited; omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. Humans that exist in a megaverse can't automatically destroy a universe in another fiction. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. 1 Answer. Multiversal. He would also be the main villain in. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. Beyonders too has proven in little EXP because h e has lost his power on various occasions and despite claiming to be omniscient, but in practice had to learn everything by experience. Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. People rank Oblivion very high because of the statements made about him in Chaos War but you can apply that to any evil character with vagueish powers, like Cyttorak or whatever. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. Forum Posts. Lucifer stomps. Your right about Oblivion shockingly. Beyonder stomps Whole Touhou fodder verse with a thought,while beyonder has feats and proof of being 1-A(Outversal) not being limited to infinitely high geometric dimensions to the verse itself, there is touhou's verse in which the dimensions have been debunked and do not qualify as superior and the ability of yukari only works on beings of a level below her and does not work on beings of a. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. If we don't then I think he would stop at 6 since Thought Robot is plot device designed to always beat the villain and Beyonder would be the villain in this situation from the perspective of Though Robot. 12984. i wanted to do this match but their was also too big of a tier gap, but now it can happen both 1-A obviouslyYujiro copies The Beyonder's abilities but then says he won't need them to defeat him before showing The Beyonder the woman in him. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Alien X (author statements included). It’s not. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. These are characters that have all three omnipotent qualities. Tier 0/0 > Tier A. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. I mean even Thor was cracking those versions, so unless the writers really wanted Beyonder-tier Thor I think it's pretty obvious that they weren't at 100% in those forms. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. Especially Yujiro's penis. All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk. Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. Sep 6, 2015. which is. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. 0. 2. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. 4 years ago. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. Follow 41314. Beyonder 39%. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is considered comparable to Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and there is a vast supply of evidence proves that Molecule Man was not in fact comparable to the. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. in classic era: Jim. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far above the Living Tribunal. This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. . Divyansh13. so i think the only characters. the Elder gods should be top of their tier. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen being who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel Universe and had them do battle on another planet called Battleworld. However, high balled Merc (the transdual Taikyuko-in-disguise on) wtf Xeelee stomps Beyonder. the other is a High Tier Reality Warper with disgusting hax also. 4,453 1,084. 1. The Voice - This is the most "active" version of God, When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word. Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence,. #5. Poll Scathan The Approver vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder (84 votes) Scathan 26%. Unwritten Leviathan are highly hyperversal, if not extraversal. PRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. 7. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. This is shown many times throughout Secret Wars 2. 3. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. Similarly, two characters in the same tier need not necessarily be equivalent in terms of power. but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. Thanos w/ Astral Regulator is the strongest character in Marvel-verse. 2. 1. 0. 5: Anyone with The Infinity Gauntlet (When it could be used in Unison)You need to be logged in to post comments. Why? Because beyonder powers are const and limited. A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. ago. Summary. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Origin: Marvel Comics. Now after the retcon the Living Tribunal, and by extension Michael and Lucifer are above the Beyonder. In terms of straight up feats CAS Lucifer and Mandrakk all technically show better feats then Perpetua. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. 11,059. Manhattan is super strong. If this. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. After the retcon that wasn't the case. Beyonder is strong but not that strong. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. Sungsam. Name:' The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who is All, Frank. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. -Everything in bleach. Member. 81. Forum Posts. Using the Pre-Retcon Beyonder here is just severe overkill. I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. CsmicRanker1314 1. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Bernkastel first summoned few thousands kitties, Will resisted for a while, but it did not take long for the cats to rip off one of his. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. He later. Location. Dreamxd26 • 2 yr. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy and could assume any gender that "he" wanted) Age: Unknown. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. Pretty sure he can't do shit to The Presence lol & there's also Lucy & Michael there. Location-The Multiverse. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. ''. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. 1. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. 2. According to that one guy Anos could do it, though I take that with a pinch of salt. 0. By their logic, Twilight Sparkle solos about 90% of Marvel and DC. "For the. 1. Doom absorbed the power of Galactus to unlock more of MM's power and MM eventually needed everyone's help (especially Silver Surfer) to defeat the Beyonder. Name: Beyonder Origin: Marvel Tier: 1-B | 1-A Gender: Inapplicable Classification: Cosmic Entity Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Nigh Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Nigh Omniscience, Remote Mind Control, Reality Embodiment, Reality Condition, Physical Law Immunity, Reality Warping Weaknesses: None Notable Destructive Capacity: Beyond. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Both are in character. the other is a High Tier Reality Warper with disgusting hax also. Bait? 1 year ago. The first firmanent would be the only being who could challege beyonder in a fair fight . The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had over the comics. CsmicRanker1314 1. I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. ago. 2nd Retcon - The BEyonder. He beat the Living Tribunal. Defenders Beyond prove GoS abilities work on Beyonders or no. Follow 12333. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. Key: Incomplete Cosmic Cube | Ascended Cosmic Cube (Kosmos) | Adult Beyonder | Escaped from the House of Ideas. And then we have the fact that Living Tribunal is three times stronger than Multi-Eternity. Origin: Marvel. I/O, Demonbane, Cthulhu Mythos, Umineko, and Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. 4 years ago. Random encounter. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. Join this channel to get access to perks:…R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Rune King Thor can't beat Omnipotential beings such as The Beyonders and Cosmic Cubes. 14 years ago. CryptoCurrent MM isn't that strong in comparison to a high-tier reality warper. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. This proves by showing you that he read the writer's mind and was able to talk to him and not only that, shred the comic-book and escaping to reality in 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23)'Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. even though the aftermath of it still did for the mainstream universe. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. You do realize Pre-Retcon Beyonder is like, the second or third most powerful comic book character ever, while Anti-Monitor wouldn't even be in the Top 10. Servant tier -the gil that appears at fate stay night, fate strange fake and as a servant in fate go(not the alive gil). VERDICT: For those unaware beyonder is not just 1-A: He's HIGH 1-A, FAR greater than infinity itself. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. CryptoName Owen Reece, Molecule Man Origin Marvel Tier: 1-B Gender: Male Classification: Mutant Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Matter Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Transmutation, Probability Manipulation, Molecular Manipulation Weaknesses: a non stable mind Destructive Capacity: Beyond Multiversal ( was able to. even the abstracts in marvel have an odd sort of "cosmically punching each other" way of expressing their power, where lucifer sort. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. 1. Reinhard or Mercurius could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. #8 Edited By Sungsam. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. Nope. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. Jack Kline can’t do shit. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. island. here is a fight that involves. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. CynicalWeeb's Demonbane is Lucifer level. Nov 25, 2017. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. All Characters are at full powerView community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit Pre-Retcon Beyonder (Marvel) vs Rebirth Superman (DC) The both of them at their strongestBecause his existence makes cosmic tier debaters run from me in discussions. So it turns out that the Beyonder from Secret Wars,Secret Wars 2 is returning in the current Defenders run: Cannot connect to Twitter. That's actually like a low showing for him. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. Also Beyonder obviously isn't mightier than TOAA virtue of TOAA literally being his author. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. HOTU has shit tier feats, as does Beyonder. #36. Yeah,it’s been retconned . If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. 0. 10. Beyonder (Post-Retcon) Beyonder Prime Marvel Universe. This was the same time the first Secret Wars wherein Beyonder first. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. the_doctor. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Having said this,we cannot scale and judge Pre Retcon Beyonder from what the Ivory Kings do. 0. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). Ima go with byonder. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. "The Beyond" was quintillions of times more massive than the Marvel Universe. But it wont be easy by no means. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. ago. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Origin: Marvel Comics. Created by. 6,016 2,373. 12984. 5)^2 + DUR^1. In Immortal Hulk#50 TOAA said he becomes TOBA when he has to do. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. . 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be. All proof that is needed is the fact that he is beyond the marvel multiverse. laj11900 • 2 yr. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. Tier= Universal+ | Creation. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. Contrary to popular belief, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is actually significantly below Pre-Retcon Beyonder in terms of power. ago No. 4,925 4,750. Although, if you forced me to choose one, i'd say Beyonder is a little above Molecule Man. 140. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. Interesting. Dr. Carey and JM De Matteis brought the guns, material and ammunition NEEDED to make DC the second-first tier most powerful fiction. . If he was a true omnipotent, then he wouldn't have been retconned. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. The entire Watcher. Skyfather. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. @higherpower: I'd be delighted if you can name more than five people who can "blink" a Pre-Retcon Beyonder level character "out of existence. Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. First firament might exist before all the 8 creations but beyonder comes from different multiverse which treats the Marvel creation as a droplet of water . Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7 days ago. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. Can Giratina save all of reality from his rage? Or will it die trying? Location: The Negative Zone Win by. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. Searching. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. I can break this down into more detail. Superhuman Strength: Superman Prime One Million has the ability to physically lift humongous levels of weight, and deliver physical blows of colossal magnitudes. @bballaag: No, even pre retcon beyonder cannot defeat The Presence or even TOAA. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. )Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. TOAAPRESENCE1. TF Pennywise should actually be a tier below Beyonder. But This Gaunlet is way out of order, why the heck is Odin and Zeus above Molecule Man. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. beyonder (pre-retcon) old ones (the dark tower) the beyonders the dark tower Replies: 18; Forum: Versus Threads; the beyonders vs the Downstreamers. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. This thread wouldn't affect what tier Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) is at because he still would be High 1-B. Who can beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 7. So I might be missing something. It's simple. Weaknesses. Wiki Points. Lucifer from DC comics (new-earth). Dem nah, There's toaa, pre retcon beyonder, toba,and true form oblivion as obvious choices but there's actually alot more. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Dude’s absolutely broken. 5 years ago. Reply. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. True form DS power is unknown. Follow 1187. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation) Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. I'm talking only about marvel and not including DC. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. Possibly the most powerful character in creation. Pre-retcon Beyonder is his most popular matchup, or at least the one I see most often, but who's his closest?. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. 0. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) (Marvel Comics) The-One-Above-All (Marvel Comics) The Presence (DC Comics) Mother of Existence (Image Comics) Divine Presence (I/O) Emperor-Beyond-The-Sea (The Chronicles of Narnia) Eru Iluvatar (Lord of the Rings) Gan (The Dark Tower) God (Digimon) The Force/Gentle Pull (Mario) The Creator (The Wheel of Time). He's a high tier multiversal reality warper. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. 4 years ago. 1. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. S. 0. 0. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. pre retcon beyonder is supposed to be above the living tribunal ( LT couldn't defeat him so he asked for MM's help) 11 years ago. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. M. I agree with his tier, but one thing I don't understand is how is beyonder above Oblivion when he is just above existene while Oblivion is not part of. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. -. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰.